Sunday, July 17, 2016
We (meaning I) get a fair fraction of visiting students during a regular semester, but they aren't quite as comman nor usually as good as the summer ones. (In a regular semester I get a mix of good students who put off a class and now can't schedule it at the university, and ones who have already failed once or twice and have a fantasy about "junior" colleges.) Here I am not counting reverse transfers who flunked out, just ones taking a single class. I can tell the difference, because we have a full transcript for the ones who transfered from the Uni to our CC, but it is possible that some of the others are repeating a single class they failed but hadn't flunked out. I'm curious if my anecdotes match reality. Are they significantly better in the summer? And how does their success rate compare to our native students in the summer, since native students also do better in the summer?
What would be very hard to measure is what I see all the time: "our" students get to see how they measure up (pretty well) and "their" students get to see that ours would be co-equal study partners after everyone is in their junior-level classes. They may also see that there is nothing second-rate about our sophomore-level classes, and respect all of our grads. BTW, if it isn't obvious, I am talking about an atypical CC class, physics, where everyone has had calculus. The world of college algebra could be very different. I should ask around.
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That was the first two years of my undergrad — the general science courses. Once we got to engineering labs, the profs were there with the grad students. Made for a totally different feel to the lab.
Smaller classes probably had a lot to do with that, but the engineering profs were generally more hands-on.